User talk:Nethilia

Doll ID correction
Dear Neth,

The doll modelling the Sparkly Skating outfit is actually Truly Me #56, not Truly Me #22! You see, the doll modelling the outfit has feathered brows and freckles. #22 neither has feathered brows nor freckles.

Joanne Maniago (talk) 13:17, March 25, 2016 (UTC)


 * Duly noted and fixed. --AkaiKaze (talk) 23:27, March 25, 2016 (UTC)
 * Hello, the doll modeling the Western Plaid outfit is Truly Me #29, not Truly Me #59. The doll in the picture has a medium skintone. #29's skin is darker than #59's.Joanne Maniago (talk) 14:38, July 6, 2016 (UTC)
 * Ah. Thanks. Nethilia (talk) 01:35, July 8, 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi, The doll modeling the Silver Shimmer Dress is actually #49. The doll has a right side part. Also, the doll has a medium skintone. The lighting just made the doll look paler. --Joanne Maniago (talk 08:38, August 8, 2016
 * Please sign your post next time.


 * Also, the correction has been made. --AkaiKaze (talk) 23:15, August 8, 2016 (UTC)

Journey Books
For certain My Journey books, the protagonist is given the opportunity of assuming another identity. (i.e. Maryellen's protagonist has the option of either being Betty's niece or a new girl in town) Should the story options be divided by identity or should they be listed together without the mentioned identities? Nipasu (talk) 21:51, April 26, 2016 (UTC)


 * I think they should be listed under the chunk of "what happens variant" like on A New Beginning: My Journey with Addy and the variant options listed under "Characters." Hmm. Maybe state something like "As Betty's niece, the protagonist and Maryellen (blah blah blah)." Nethilia (talk) 05:15, April 27, 2016 (UTC)

#46
Hello Neth, American Girl Customer Service just informed me yesterday that Just Like You 46 is now retired.

Joanne Maniago (talk) 20:31, April 30, 2016 (UTC)


 * She's still on the site as seen here: http://www.americangirl.com/shop/truly-me/truly-me-doll-46-dark-skin-curly-dark-brown-hair-brown-eyes-accessories-06bun70. Let's keep her as available until she goes out of stock there. Nethilia (talk) 01:35, May 3, 2016 (UTC)


 * 1) 46's gone off the Canadian site. I am vacationing in my cousin's house in Vancouver today so that is why it got defaulted to the Canadian site.Joanne Maniago (talk) 09:47, May 8, 2016 (UTC)
 * The Canadian site doesn't have the full catalog--for example, a lot of Josefina's things in her collection don't show as available--so it's better to rely on the US one. Nethilia (talk) 02:27, May 9, 2016 (UTC)


 * Actually, some of the stuff that are still available on the US site are no longer available on the Canadian site. For example, the Violin Set, which is still available on the US site, is sold out on the Canadian site.Joanne Maniago (talk) 17:36, May 19, 2016 (UTC


 * A perfect example of why the US site is the better reference. Nethilia (talk) 00:13, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

GotY Stubs
Just wanted to let you know that a lot of pages for Girls of the Year are still "stubs". I know you must be super busy but please consider updating these pages. Isabelle and Grace have the most, but others, like Saige, Lanie, McKenna, Chrissa, etc. have a lot of "stub" pages.

I have considered editing them myself but usually the only reference I have to describe from is the article title photo, and often these do not show details such as how the garment fastens. I would like to give only the most detailed and informative descriptions I can, but as I do not own any of these items, it is hard.

Veralidaine (talk) 17:39, May 17, 2016 (UTC)Veralidaine


 * Well, I only have a few of any given AG items myself. I don't have detailed items for everything; a lot of older items are not up because people haven't gone and edited them. Stub articles will get handled as they are handled. Asking me--and me alone--to update pages for things I don't have and can't give deep details about to the level the project requests is asking a lot of a single person. Short of the fandom buying me everything GotY or people getting me detailed images (which might be possible with future publications coming out), I'm not going to be able to go in and update every GotY stub. We are a Wiki project, not a single user book that only I can write. Nethilia (talk) 00:37, May 18, 2016 (UTC)

Use of BeForever film portrayals
Seeing that BeForever books do not have internal illustrations and since American Girl is open to the idea of film studios making live-action short films and specials, would the use of a character's portrayal from a live-action source, where possible, be an appropriate image to use in that character's article (eg., a still image of Carolyn Larkin as she appears in Maryellen and the Brightest Star at the top of her article)? --AkaiKaze (talk) 02:38, June 12, 2016 (UTC)


 * Seems legit to me for now. If we ever get official images for them then that would override, but movie actors count as a legit portrayal. Nethilia (talk) 03:00, June 12, 2016 (UTC)

Question
Hi, Why did you remove my message on ThirstyHorse52's wall, and why did you remove Her message on my wall?

--PandaGirl1 (talk) 00:43, November 26, 2016 (UTC)PandaGirl1


 * The messages were unsigned, unheadlined, the conversation does not need to be carried out over two talk pages, and from what I saw they were not about the project here on the Wiki. We are not a message board. If you have questions about data added to a particular article, each article has a talk page for that. Nethilia (talk) 06:51, November 26, 2016 (UTC)

GOTY 2017
Now that Gabriela's name and first book cover has been revealed, should her pages be made now? Or should we wait? Nipasu (talk) 06:33, December 7, 2016 (UTC)


 * We will need a full release on a semi-official site before we do. Nethilia (talk) 07:46, December 7, 2016 (UTC)

Header Here
Nethilia, I've seen how you dictatorily bully people just when they are trying their best. I seem to be one of your latest victims. You're a tyrant and a cyberbully. I don't want to deal with you anymore. Jade Starletia (talk) 17:39, April 30, 2017 (UTC)


 * This has nothing to do with the project here or the data I discussed on the Gabriela Talk page, which is the only time I've spoken to you about anything. If you are leaving, do so. But I don't need an announcement to the effect of "I'm leaving." Nethilia (talk) 01:03, May 1, 2017 (UTC)

American Girl Revue
Hello, Nethilia. I'm relatively new to the Wiki, and was wondering if it would be alright to create pages for the American Girl Revue Musical and the songs (which would include which books the songs correlate to, and the lyrics). I noticed that there aren't pages for them yet and would like to help by helping make them. (The only thing I wouldn't be able to do is add lyrics to Kit's song in the Revue because it's not on the Album and so I don't know how it goes.) Thank you!

Neverland8 (talk) 13:56, May 24, 2017 (UTC)


 * I'm obviously not Neth, so I can't speak for her. But I would recommend starting off by making one page for the Revue. I'd be interested in helping with the page since I swear I went to it when I was a kid... I have the doll-sized white overalls outfit. (I had one that fit me, too!) However, I don't think that adding the lyrics would be a good idea, because of copyright infringement. I don't think songs have enough information to merit their own pages. Do you have enough information to create a substantial page? Pleeeaaaseee don't just make a stub. Before I made a page from scratch I always outline it, to make sure it's worth it. (I've only created one stub that I am going to work on in the future.)


 * Mishellella (talk) 19:27, May 24, 2017 (UTC)

One of a Kind
Since American Girl is letting customers make a One of a Kind doll (as named by, and detailed on the Chicago, Los Angeles, and New York flagship stores), does it deserve its own article or merely a subsection under Truly Me? --AkaiKaze (talk) 00:11, July 8, 2017 (UTC)
 * I think it needs its own article, with details. We don't want people mistaking them as the same thing as the non-customizable moddies. They're also gonna be available online as well. Nethilia (talk) 04:52, July 8, 2017 (UTC)
 * Update: I just got a catalog and they appear to be separating the Create Your Own as its own line/section. So yeah, separate. I'll get the article up. Nethilia (talk) 22:46, July 11, 2017 (UTC)

Re: Spin casting
From a quick research I did, spin casting doesn't produce hollow shells like what rotomolding does. A number of videos on YouTube show the process bring applied to doll heads for starters, and according to a number of articles, rotomolding took off thanks to the doll industry. Blakegripling ph (talk) 13:46, July 23, 2017 (UTC)


 * I stand corrected. I can't remember where I saw that the term was spin casting--I think an AG thing said it? I just remember it being that spinning in a mold like this: youtube (from 1963, but same process probably. And that looks like the rotational thing. Fix my errors! Nethilia (talk) 02:09, July 24, 2017 (UTC)
 * It's alright, I mean, people tend to confuse it over the other casting technique so that's no biggie. Blakegripling ph (talk) 06:08, July 24, 2017 (UTC)

Delete A Page
I found a page that is a low-quality page and needs to be deleted. The page is Create Your Own Line. Please delete it.

Thanks!

--Olafluver (talk) 11:58, August 8, 2017 (UTC)
 * Thankee. Duly terminated. Nethilia (talk) 12:10, August 8, 2017 (UTC)

Hi! I had a question about transition dolls. I'm not sure you can answer it but my little sister has a Kit doll my older sister got a couple years ago from some neighbours we have who gave her to us nude for free because we were moving and she has a couple of the details that a transition doll would have. Particularly the chubbier body but she has the American Copy Right sign on the back of her neck. And so my question is, is it possible for transition dolls to have the american girl copy right mark on their neck?

Wellokaythen (talk) 01:49, August 25, 2017 (UTC) WellOkayThen

Goty 2018
Hello, I am new here! I was wondering should I create Luciana’s page Or should we wait a while? It’s okay to wait until more information is released and stuff but I was wondering. Agloverforever2004 (talk) 23:30, September 20, 2017 (UTC)


 * Until news is officially released through a legitimate source--e.g. either AG's official media, Amazon listings with names, news outlets, etc.---we do not list anything on any characters, not even on the front page. Leaks for Luciana have mostly been fan sites, fan images, and third-party auctions. We will not put anything up until there is more information. We as a wiki are very adamant about this. Nethilia (talk) 23:34, September 20, 2017 (UTC)

Okay thank you so much!--Agloverforever2004 (talk) 00:02, September 21, 2017 (UTC)

Editing
Hello, so sorry to bother you again but I was wondering if there are any pages that I can help edit? Thank you! Agloverforever2004 (talk) 01:20, September 21, 2017 (UTC)


 * Look around and see what can use editing, while still following our rules and regulations. Nethilia (talk) 05:27, September 21, 2017 (UTC)

Kaya's Birthday
While Kaya's Birthday is unknown within the series, American Girl's official instagram has declared August 15 the day that they "observe" it. I was wondering if we could add this somewhere, like in her page trivia or under the infobox, something like "Unknown but observed on August 15." What do you think?

Neverland8 (talk) 18:13, September 24, 2017 (UTC)

Nanea's Page Locked
Nanea's main page is locked for editing (at least for me, but I don't think I've been banned?), it just says "View Source" currently. And yeah, the VA confirmation is just a YouTube comment unfortunately; the Z.Crew videos don't list Voice Actors. Though, the girl who says she voiced her- Nicole Laeno- has YouTube videos and her voice does match, and nobody on the AG Channel has removed her comment or replied a disconformation.

Neverland8 (talk) 15:47, October 24, 2017 (UTC)


 * A quick glance looks like the pages were locked when the information was released to prevent rumor. I'll go through and adjust that later this week.


 * Since it's a Youtube comment, I'd rather it not be put on the wiki. We'd need more verification. An un-deleted comment doesn't make it true. Nethilia (talk) 10:42, October 25, 2017 (UTC)

Edit reversion inquiry
Hey there, Kirkburn from FANDOM Support here. We've been contacted about some of the editing practises here, since a lot of edits are reverted, and I wanted to ask you about it.

For example, this edit. Those descriptions seemed entirely reasonable to my eye - so why were they removed? (I admit little familiarity with the topic of this wiki, but the info matches the photo.) -- Kirkburn (talk) 17:41, February 2, 2018 (UTC)


 * Hello, Kirkburn. As one of the head admins, I can explain why edits like those are reverted as improper. One of our standard policies is that we would like descriptions of outfits and items to be as detailed as possible, not just a quick line. This has been true for some time (as seen here, at the part where it says "Articles and descriptions of items on pages should never consist of one or two short lines, a short list of items, or only two or three sentences").


 * This is especially crucial for product descriptions, because one or two lines doesn't give enough description unless it's a simple article of clothing. (We don't expect a long description on a pair of white socks, for example, "white ankle socks" is sufficient.) Compare the reverted edits to the edits for this recent article's descriptions, which can be seen in edit history here. People aren't required to own a product to edit an article--many items on this Wiki are older and may be harder to get. But an edit should at least be able to tell a reader more than a single sentence description. For example, I do not own this item. However, the description of the item is enough to tell the dress's plausible visual fabric, skirt length, some of the trims, and back closure (most of these items close across the back with Velcro), enough to picture the item without the image.


 * We have this policy in place because, when the Wiki was launched and still open to anonymous edits, it was easy for the targeted audience or younger editors to leave short, non-thorough descriptions. These were often based on product descriptions from the website or catalogs which are, by nature, written in flowery, product-selling descriptive language (e.g. for the above stellar outfit example, the webtext is A multicolored space-dyed tank top; A varsity jacket with patches she proudly wears at camp and at home; Denim shorts with a decal heart).


 * Another reason is because many secondhand purchases of AG items may not and often do not include every item; as a product targeted to children, it is plausible that outfit parts are lost, damaged, or mixed up in secondhand sales. A description here should be clear enough that if someone finds just one part e.g. just a white shirt with text on it--they can try a search here to find what set it belongs to by the text of the article. We are aiming for a high level of detail so that a person, without looking at an image, can compare what they may have or see in a search online and verify what an item is without the other items in the product or a verification of a purchased item.


 * ETA @ 4:48 PST 2/3/18: For example, there are multiple outfits with blue jeans. A description of "blue jeans" does not help others find out which of the jeans they may have. However, if they see that the jeans are "distressed," this may lead them to the right outfit. Some older articles have short descriptions; this is because they have not yet been cleared or updated.


 * An accepted description of the jersey from the article linked--based on the picture alone, because this is also something I don't own--would be akin to: White short sleeved soccer jersey. V-shaped neckline. Purple trim on neckline, down front, and on sleeve cuffs. American Girl logo and pink 2 on front of jersey. (I have not put this on the article yet.)


 * I hope this explains things. If you have any other questions or concerns, please let me know.


 * Nethilia (talk) 06:49, February 3, 2018 (UTC)